Interview: Arash Dibazar
Meet Arash Dibazar
He’s a Los Angeles based seduction artist, martial artist, entrepreneur, Youtuber, and one of the most intriguing and well spoken gurus I’ve discovered in the last five years.
As a child Arash and his family escaped violence in Iran. He moved through many countries and eventually landed in America, where after years of being bullied, he studied martial arts and reached a championship level. He then developed his own method he calls, “Panjo,” which he teaches online, and at his IMC fitness centres.
He studied acting under a mentor, and after reading The Game, became intrigued by the pua seduction methods. He studied pickup under Matador of Mystery Method, and has grown to become one of the most intriguing and polarizing figures in the seduction community.
His seduction company is named Seductive Instinct.
TD: Who is Arash Dibazar?
Arash: I’m the same individual I’ve been ever since I’ve had any conscious memory of who I am.
When you see how I am as an entrepreneur, when you see who I am as a martial artist, a pickup artist, and as a dog trainer. Anything I put my hands on, people need to observe that all of those areas are approached with the same exact spirit and energy. So that’s me.
I’m not a martial artist (hesitates), I don’t associate myself I’m a martial artist, I’m a pickup artist. Yes, these are things I’m very good at, but if someone asks, “Who is Arash Dibazar?” I would say I’m an individual who wants to know what my potential is, and reach it, knowing that that’s never going to be fully actualized.
TD: You were trained my Matador, under Mystery. Were you insecure with women before the training?
Arash: Yes. My insecurity stems from that I came from another country. I was eleven when I came to the United States. I travelled different parts of the world trying to get to the United States as a refugee. So I was picked on you know. And when I came to the United States I was picked on again. So imagine going to a country at eleven years old which was fifth grade when I got here and trying to say learn Chinese or Japanese at a fifth grade level, and the culture shock, and being beat up, and being picked on and outcasted. And kids are very cruel for some reason, and when I look back I can’t believe the evil that was going on during that time on children. I’m sure it’s the same right now.
Becoming The “Wise Master.”
So my insecurity came from that. I was introverted and messed up and by the time I had met Mystery and Matador I had an incredible looking girlfriend already. It was because when I decided I needed to make a change in my life it was clear when I was wanting to do martial arts, that was the purpose. I needed to handle my insecurities. I admired the master of martial arts you know.
I never wanted to be the champion. I didn’t consider myself a champion martial artist. Although I’ve achieved the championship status before. But I did identify with the master, you know, the old wise master. That’s who I wanted to be as a child.
By the time I’d reached those guys I had done a lot of, for lack of a better term, inner work. Everything I would get my hands on I would try to relate it to martial arts, women and communication, were the three subjects that I knew ruled my life. Ok but then I came across game and I realized there was actual technique.
On Meeting Matador and Mystery
And then I met them and the biggest eye-opener for me was one night I did a one on one with Matador. I did a few one on one’s with him, and I think it was the second or, I don’t know what night it was, when I recognized how much better he was than me. That no matter how confident I was, no matter how I looked, no matter what I did, I was just getting schooled in that area. And I so clearly remember the moment, like so vividly I remember the moment of looking at him from the back and thinking, if that man can do it, I’m gonna do it but I’m gonna do it better than him.
That was my thought. And at that moment things changed for me. At that point I’d read everything but I was still trying to show them what I could do. It was different. At that moment I realized there is a true art-form in this. There is a true science and I don’t know it. I knew it mentally because I’d studied everything I could get my hands on before I met Mystery but it was different.
Tony: It was a bit of a paradigm shift for you.
Arash: One hundred percent. I clearly remember opening all these sets. The moment was this. I was opening all these sets and I did great and all that, but I kept losing the sets. I opened this set and I was doing great and I took them to Matador’s table and I introduced them. And he turned and he shook their hands and when they looked at him, the way they looked at him, especially the blonde, the way she looked at him, and the way she changed right in front of me as she shook his hand, I thought I was getting the Indicator of interest. The way she started interacting with him, in a matter of seconds, I knew I was completely outmatched and I wanted that effect, not the one I was having.
Everyone punches the same, but the champion can knock everybody out with the same punch. A writer for example, uses the same alphabet, twenty six letters, but the way he puts the words together makes all the difference in one book to the next. And that’s real magic. And that’s what I appreciate about high level people. I’m using the same words that everyone else is using, but the world is coming to my doorstep to hear me speak on the same subjects they can study just like I am in books and audios and videos. But the way I’m putting it together into a sequence, it goes better for them.
Tony: Do you consider seduction to me more art or science?
Arash: It’s a science. Let’s understand it first as a science, and let’s define that. Anyone can do the experiments with the theories. If you do them you should get a consistent result across the board. I see pickup like that. I know that when a neg is done properly to a nine, a very high level girl, I can predict with one hundred percent accuracy like a scientist knows his gravity, what her reaction is going to be. At the highest levels of pickup you’re having an interaction with her and you’re thinking fifty different things because everything has already been predicted, so it’s not anything anymore. So there is a science to it when it’s done right. But just like every experiment, a guy thinks he’s negging, he’s not, he’s offending, there’s a difference. If it doesn’t go right he’s like “Well negs don’t work,” or some stupid thing. You have to understand what it means, that it’s precise, and it’s exact. So first it should be studied as a science, because it deserves the respect of a science. You have to approach it like you have these chemicals you are going to mix and you’re going to get a certain result, and that result has to be specific.
Once you understand the science of it, the quality of your communication is art. Like quality of singing is art, quality of drawing is art, quality of speaking or writing is art. So now as an artist, what you do with that science and how you apply it to other human beings and how it affects them. If it’s smooth, if it’s appreciated, if it’s something that they will pay for and they, woo! (clapping) there’s the artistry. How beautiful is it when you do it? Pickup is beautiful when you do it right. Seduction is one of the most beautiful, poetic movements of the mind, and speech and everything. That’s artistry.
On “feel good” pickup methods.
Arash: This is what happened to pickup arts in recent times: a bunch of fake coaches couldn’t get results so they started to say, “Well ynow, it depends on how you feel when you’re out. And you know a nine is up for interpretation. What’s beautiful to one guy is not necessarily beautiful to another guy. I absolutely disagree. I think that you and I and anybody else that’s in the room, we could bring a truly beautiful woman with the right breast size, skin tone, hair, lips, and all of us would go, “Oh she’s a knockout man.” Some of us will go, “I like orientals better, or, “I like blacks better,” or, “I like short hair better,” but all of us will go, “God damn she’s a knockout,” and all of us will go when we bring another girl, skin’s fucked up, hair receding, bad breath, too fat; we’ll go, “Ok she’s ugly.” So it’s not in the eye of the beholder, there is a standard to beauty. We can all look at a Lamborghini and go, “That’s beautiful.” Some people will say, “Oh that’s too much.” I don’t care. Go sit in it.
I tell Arash that as my own online “status” as a seduction coach has increased, so have the haters.
“Congratulations. That means you’re doing something right.” He says.
Tony: Has being open and public as a pickup artist affected your life negatively?
Arash: Originally yes when I came out I got the same hate that anybody would get. “Oh well he’s fake, he’s paying those girls, they’re really not my girls, they’re actresses.” I did what I do, which is keep living, and keep communicating. I didn’t go down, I did more of it. Now we’re at a different level.
Never on tv will you see me apologizing for hooking up with a girl. You’ll see me bragging about it. I’m not Tiger Woods, who will say sorry. I’m not Bill Clinton who will say sorry. I’ll be like, damn right, ok. And I’ll say, that bitch tried to make herself famous, and I guess she succeeded. My problem is what? Nothing. I already told you, I’m a player. Straight up, I’m a player. You know when you read books about players? In highschool they talk about players. Rappers talk about players. They’re talking about me brother. I’m the guy.
On what pickup is.
Pickup is the art of conversation. Sales is the art of conversation. Writing is the art of conversation. Interviews are the art of conversation. It all comes down to, can you converse with another human being? And both of you have a good time and get your point across, back and forth and leave the interaction, both of you feeling better. If you can, you’re going to be great at everything you do. And if you can’t do that you’re going to be miserable at everything, I don’t care what your skills are.
Tony: What’s your motivation to Hustle?
Arash: The energy that it takes to not be number one, and handle your depression is worse. So I have to choose between one or the other. And I’d rather put all my energy into having from the world admiration, and money, and women, than to put my energy into trying to handle my own bullshit.
End interview.
We spoke for nearly an hour, and I feel privileged that this busy man gave me his time. I highly suggest you subscribe to his Youtube channel and invest in his programs. He is having a seminar this Saturday at 8pm Pacific. It’s only $20 and I’m sure it will be illuminating and great and all that. Sign up at seductiveinstinct.com
Peace, love, sex, power, freedom. Get off your ass and make something of yourself, starting today.
TD.
Absolute Ability. 4 years of content
Meh…I’m sure he’s great at what he does but that is not someone I’d want to pay money to learn from.
You get back from life what you put in though.