The 6 Best Products Other Than “Models.”
I’ve read so many of these seduction forum posts where guys say the same thing; something like this:
“I read Models by Mark Manson, so I went out and tried 50 direct approaches with an opener like, ‘Hey I think you’re (insert random compliment) and wanted to meet you.’ I’m getting zero results! Now I’m depressed. I’m 20 years old. Help me.”
First off, my thoughts on Models.
I know Mark. We’ve spoken on the phone and online many times. He’s a great guy. I used to love his old pickup blog when it was called “Practical Pickup,” before he changed it to “Post-Masculine,” then, “Mark Manson.” Mark is a lot more redpill than he lets up in his mainstream persona.
I read Models, which was a pretty good anti-pua, inner-game book. But honestly, it’s almost completely devoid of practical advice and actionable technique. It’s just re-hashed game theory, but blue pilled to be devoid of anything objectionable to the mainstream. It’s a safe book. “Push-Pull,” became, “Polarization,” and most the book is about just, “Being yourself.”
Hey, I haven’t sold a million copies of my books, so he must have struck a nerve. It’s a gateway drug. Anyway.
If you’re a total newbie, it’s a decent read. But if you actually want results in-field, you should be reading the oldschool fundamentals. I’ll list some of the best resources to actually get results with cold approach pickup:
Double Your Dating by David Deangelo: This book is dated yes, but if you struggle with, “I just don’t know what to say,” syndrome, there are few better books. Cocky funny humour still works.
Mystery Method: Get the video course. Yes it’s full of ancient routines, but there are few coaches who teach how to effectively use indirect openers, and how to deal with groups, in party type social environments. Mystery method is great for understanding group theory, and standard stuff like push pull, story telling, isolating, peacocking, and yes…even negging. Mystery became incredibly famous for a reason. Behind all the techniques there is a deep understanding of human psychology.
60 Years of Challenge by 60 Years of Challenge: It might be a “challenge,” to even find this book, but there are few books that better cut through the bullshit theory to what actually works. It was ground breaking when it first came out. One two of my favourite quotes are, “You have to risk being creepy,” and, “Escalation is attractive.”
Foundations by Tyler from RSD: Most guys who get into Real Social Dynamics start with The Blueprint, which is probably the best inner game product in the history of men’s dating and pickup advice. But again, it contains little practical value. Foundations on the other hand, gives practical advice, like how to not be needy, how to be funny, how to approach girls in bars, how to hook, how to push pull. It’s not solely an inner game/confidence product.
Flawless Natural by Tim from RSD: There are few concepts that are more powerful when it comes to game than Tim’s, “Woo!” He gives loads of practical advice, but also some great techniques on how to avoid state crash when you are dealing with 657 rejections in a row. My favourite quote from this product is, “Don’t ask ‘what should I do next? But instead, ‘What do I want to do next?”
I Hope It’s Sunny Out by Tony D: Frustrated with all the 500 page inner game books, I wrote a practical guide on how to approach women in the daytime. My entire philosophy is that seduction and confidence lays natural and dormant inside you, and experience is the key to unlocking it. What to say? What angle to approach from? Posture, vocal tonality, eye contact, distance. It’s almost all practical advice you can immediately employ, without 400 pages of mumbo jumbo to confuse you. And it’s like $8 instead of $400.
If you’re a young guy who read a book, tried for a month and you’re getting, “Zero results,” well…welcome to the real world. It’s called paying your dues.
You’re likely a snivelling newbie, and you won’t transform your life without some rejection, humiliation and pain.
Suck it up, do the work, and deal with the reality of the situation. Improving your sex life can be hard. But you’re young, intelligent and determined, right?
You can do it. But it will take some time. Appreciate that you have it.
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